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Judy G.
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Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support.
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erika
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| Judy G. wrote: | Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
I read that Dem Owen criticized Scozzafava for being too liberal!!! Thats hillarious!!!
The Repubs really messed up that race. Primaries are a good thing.
What I like about the results of Ny23 is the phoney Conservatives got outed, that means Newt and Steele!
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Miranda731
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| Judy G. wrote: | Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
All I can refer to is my nephew who lives in NJ, a lifelong Democrat, who would not vote for Corzine because of the taxes & corruption, just as the exit polls indicfated. In addition, apparently he ran a late series of ads making fun of his opponent for being "fat" and if there's one way to anatagonize voters, just make jokes about your opponent's looks and/or weight. In any case, governors are not involved in national policy.
As for Dede still being on the ballot, I suspect most of the votes she got were on absentee ballots cast before she withdrew. Of course that's just a guess, but I'm sure there are a number of snow birds who live up there and are already down here in FL! I think it is ridiculous myself that anyone voted for a guy who doesn't even live in the district or know anything about local issues.
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RLD
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Judy G. wrote: |
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
I would suggest that the reverse is true. Most of the stuff I have read has suggested that this race was not decided on Dem/Rep issues rather on insider/outside issues.
The conservative candidate was apparently not at all impressive in person and was clearly not versed in local issues. I think he lost because he was percieved as an outsider supported by outsiders and outsider money. Not the right perception for that area.
Another interesting fact is that the Dems did not really contest either of the gubnatorial elections. Despite having a much larger war chest the Dem national orgs spent about have of what the Repubs put into those races.
And both of those seats are traditionally countercyclical. For the past 24 years each of those states have voted against the sitting whitehouse in their gubnatorial elections.
Lots of stuff to think about.
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Sharon W.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: HAPPY TUESDAY NIGHT IN NEW JERSEY!!!!! |
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| Martha4545 wrote: | | Sharon, are you having a great night? Bet you are. LOL We got rid of Corzine. Bye, Bye Corzine!!!!!!!! |
I was sure it was a mistake Martha........didn't really believe it at first. I figured they would surely find a way to 'fix' it by morning!
Funny huh.......even with Obama here so much stumping for him.
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Sharon W.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| erika wrote: | | Judy G. wrote: | Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
I read that Dem Owen criticized Scozzafava for being too liberal!!! Thats hillarious!!!
The Repubs really messed up that race. Primaries are a good thing.
What I like about the results of Ny23 is the phoney Conservatives got outed, that means Newt and Steele! |
That is pretty funny erika........now I read he broke the record for broken campaign promises in the first 24 hrs!!!
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erika
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| Sharon W. wrote: | | erika wrote: | | Judy G. wrote: | Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
I read that Dem Owen criticized Scozzafava for being too liberal!!! Thats hillarious!!!
The Repubs really messed up that race. Primaries are a good thing.
What I like about the results of Ny23 is the phoney Conservatives got outed, that means Newt and Steele! |
That is pretty funny erika........now I read he broke the record for broken campaign promises in the first 24 hrs!!!
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YES! I read that. Howquick Pelosi got him to flip unless he was a phoney moderat all along. He lied to his district, I wonder if he'll get a 2nd term, lol. He was supposed to be a moderate, I suppose a moderate is code word for leftist.
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Sharon W.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| erika wrote: | | Sharon W. wrote: | | erika wrote: | | Judy G. wrote: | Maybe it was a referendum on Obama despite the victory in NY-23.
People are hurting economically, and despite his 800 billion stimulus package, his policies aren't working. People need jobs in the private sector. Not everyone can work in government where most of the job growth has been.
As for NY, Scozzafava's name was still on the ballot. I wonder who would have gotten the lion's share of her votes if her name could have been excluded. From the information I have read, the Democrat Bill Owen was right of her so maybe NY-23 will get a good "Blue Dog Democrat". Anyway, I am sure the national media will pay particular attention to this next year.
Actually, the Conservative Republican candidate did quite well since he didn't have the backing of the Republican party until the liberal Republican pulled out. I can only speculate that he might not have fared as well as he did if conservatives across the country had not come to his support. |
I read that Dem Owen criticized Scozzafava for being too liberal!!! Thats hillarious!!!
The Repubs really messed up that race. Primaries are a good thing.
What I like about the results of Ny23 is the phoney Conservatives got outed, that means Newt and Steele! |
That is pretty funny erika........now I read he broke the record for broken campaign promises in the first 24 hrs!!!
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YES! I read that. Howquick Pelosi got him to flip unless he was a phoney moderat all along. He lied to his district, I wonder if he'll get a 2nd term, lol. He was supposed to be a moderate, I suppose a moderate is code word for leftist. |
If I had to guess......he had to lie to get votes in a district that hadn't gone for a Democrat in 100+ years......he only has one year and then another election....hope the people in his district are paying attention.
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