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ShandaLear

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1262 Location: New England
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: Still Walking the Streets |
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Four years ago I was in Braintree, MA with my 1-year-old pug Max. I took him to a small patch of grass beside a PetSmart and was mugged. The guy bruised and sprainend my shoulder and badly hurt Max, kicking him so hard in the chest when he went after him for man-handling me that he had a bruised heart and lungs and bruised ribs.
Max held on until I pulled him away, which made me drop the leash and that freed up my purse. He took it, yanked my original diamond engagement ring off, and ran for the subway across the street. A warrant was issued, but they didn't immediately catch up with him.
This was the guy: http://wbztv.com/local/mass.general.rape.2.1266131.html
Then last year he was arrested at the same location, where he had been stalking women in the Borders bathroom. They found gloves, a ski mask and duct tape in his backpack... and he already had a long history of robbery and sexual assault. He got six months.
Last weekend he tried to rape another woman in a bathroom at Mass General hopsital.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FIGURE OUT HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED WITH FREEDOM?
And what might have happened if my little dog wasn't with me? _________________ http://www.christineolinger.com
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Gypsy

Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 165 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Does your state not have a three strikes policy/law?? Here in California this guys would have gone away on his third stike and they would have thrown away the key. At least that's the way it's supposed to work. I haven't heard an outcry that the state has started releasing three stikers in order to save money. But who knows what will happen in the future.  _________________ Nothing beats a hammock in the shade, a light breeze, books to read and lots of time to enjoy them!! |
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rhiannon61

Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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It's always amazed me when criminals get arrested and you hear about their long criminal records. Makes you wonder why they aren't in prison somewhere.
Over the Fourth of July weekend we had a serial killer here in Gaffney, SC. Patrick Tracy Burris, who had been released in April after eight years in prison in NC, killed five people in Gaffney and then went back to NC. He was killed during a burglary. Turns out that his criminal record was more than 25 pages long! And they aren't even sure how many people he's killed, besides the five here in SC. _________________ ~~rhiannon~~
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Klass

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 823 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Sex offenders should never be released, they can never be re-habilitated. Why does the law system not recognise this??
What does it take?  _________________ "Its just your jive talkin'
That gets in the way"
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EAGLEGIRL
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 978 Location: Franklin, Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to Max, you were lucky that you got away with being mugged which is bad enough. I do not understand how a human being that is in the position of being a judge can ever have sympathy with these types of criminals----child molesters, pedophiles, rapists and murderers---none of them can be rehabilitated---ever! They have such a hatred for mankind--usually women--and such unnatural uncontrollable urges that the main objective it to keep society safe by throwing them all in prison together and throw away the key---no chance in hell of parole. Let the prison population take care of them---remember what happened to Jeffery Dahamer in prison?? When you let out those types of beasts they only learn how to perfect their craft and go on with their perverted behaviors.
These beasts always have some sad story to tell to drum up sympathy--they were molested as children, bad childhood, addictions, what ever----I have no sympathy for any of those scum of the earths. If I had it my way, I would put them in a cell and torture them slowly as they tortured their victims.
I am sure that all this boils down to money. They can't keep them in because of overcrowding and money shortages---fine---take them out back and shoot them and be done with it---would be the greatest gift to society. |
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RLD

Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 3273 Location: My heart is in Africa
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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The high rate of sex offender recidivism is a myth. And while certain individuals should be locked up forever, you should keep in mind that sex offenders, overall, have the second lowest recidivism rate of all felons, behind murderers:
Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.
The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 accounted for nearly 4,877,000 arrest charges over their recorded careers.
Within 3 years of release, 2.5% of released rapists were rearrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for a new homicide.
Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.
Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.
Now this is an older study, but a large one and considered very good. Several smaller studies since have come to similar conclusions.
Rld _________________ "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert |
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silverstar

Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 782 Location: Ca.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Googling, Percent of Sex Offender Recidivsm gives quite a different picture when you look at the ccomplete records of these offenders.
www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/vsorp94pr.htm
this is the site I looked at,you seldom hear about any sex crime where the guy hasn`t already been convicted of others,usually many others,and of course no one ever knows how many aren`t reported ,or even if they haven`t killed others and stashed the body.
Hard to imagine how the guy in the news right now lived with 10 dead women, all in various states of decomposition in his house. |
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ShandaLear

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1262 Location: New England
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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If he had actually been charged in my case he would still be in jail. The felony carried a stiffer sentence.
And leave it to RLD to have that response. Honestly.
I guess Dave is just special... unlike all the super-fluffy sex offenders who magically become bunny farmers and live in peace forever.
How much crack is in that koolaid? _________________ http://www.christineolinger.com
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rhiannon61

Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Some laws definitely need to be changed. As for the rapist in Cleveland with the dead bodies in his house, it says right here:
As a registered sex offender, Sowell was required to check in regularly at the sheriff's office. Officers didn't have the right to enter his house, but they would stop by to make sure he was there. Their most recent visit was Sept. 22, just hours before the woman reported being raped.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_re_us/us_rapist_s_home_bodies
So the cops make sure that he's not on the street raping women and make sure that he's at home, where he could be doing Goddess knows what. Sure, invasion of privacy and all that, but the guy is a registered sex offender and now a serial killer.
Gotta love our criminal justice system. And the name is correct: justice for the criminals and who gives a damn for the victims. _________________ ~~rhiannon~~
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LisaW

Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 839
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ShandaLear wrote: | If he had actually been charged in my case he would still be in jail. The felony carried a stiffer sentence.
And leave it to RLD to have that response. Honestly.
I guess Dave is just special... unlike all the super-fluffy sex offenders who magically become bunny farmers and live in peace forever.
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What's the statute of limitations in your state for your assault and the robbery? If you identified him then and an arrest warrant was issued, isn't that still active? _________________ "Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."
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ShandaLear

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1262 Location: New England
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RLD

Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 3273 Location: My heart is in Africa
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately civil suits are rarely of any use against those kind of scum bags...you can't get blood from a stone.
Rld _________________ "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert |
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Giny

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 525
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Did you get back your engagement ring? _________________ We rule the school |
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RLD

Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 3273 Location: My heart is in Africa
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ShandaLear wrote: | And leave it to RLD to have that response. Honestly.
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Sure thing Shandy. I think we should keep every sex offender in jail forever because about 5% will committ another sex crime in the first three years after being released.
But don't let a few facts from the real world get in the way of a good lynch mob mentality.
Kill them all and let the Goddess sort them out? Or did I get that quote wrong?
Rld _________________ "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert |
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EAGLEGIRL
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 978 Location: Franklin, Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Lynch mob mentality works fine with me---gets even the 5% off the streets. I have no sympathy for them at all---take them out back and torture them then kill them is fine with me. |
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RLD

Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 3273 Location: My heart is in Africa
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| EAGLEGIRL wrote: | | Lynch mob mentality works fine with me---gets even the 5% off the streets. I have no sympathy for them at all---take them out back and torture them then kill them is fine with me. |
Last time I checked we were a country of laws and lynch mobs are kind of a bad thing.
But, there are places that operate exactly as you describe. Saudi Arabia springs to mind.
Rld _________________ "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert |
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ShandaLear

Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 1262 Location: New England
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JaniceC

Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 571 Location: Edmonton,AB Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but I am really curious since many seem to believe anyone charged with a "sex" crime should never be let out of jail. Do you really mean everyone?
Do you mean the statutory rape cases between two teenagers where there was consexual (that word doesn’t seem quite right but…) sex but one party was underage?
How about the kid that performs a sex act (oral sex) that turns out to be illegal in their state and is jailed for 10 years? Do you agree with the sentence and the fact they are forever labeled sex offenders? _________________ Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it.
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RLD

Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 3273 Location: My heart is in Africa
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| ShandaLear wrote: | DO. NOT. QUESTION. RLD.
For she hath the power of Google and Wikipidia, and thus spake truths that were not to be questioned.
Verily. |
Are you sure you got the right guy Shandy?
It appears he was incarcerated for the year you claim he attacked you.
You can add the calender and basic math skills to my list of super powers.
Rld _________________ "I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert |
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EAGLEGIRL
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 978 Location: Franklin, Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I am talking about heineous crimes--evil sickos-Jeffery Dahamer types---The sick beast that kidnapped a young boy and girl (brother and sister) about 5 and 6 yrs old from Oregon about 3 yrs ago and raped them repeatedly and killed the brother---he had a string of sex crimes and got away with it for 10 yrs--kept getting out of prison to committ the same crime. I am talking about Elizabeth Smart's abductors. I am talking about Susan Smith--you know the evil b**** that drowned her 2 children in the lake all over a stupid lover. Or just recently, the guy that fathered 2 children from the girl he abducted many years ago when she was 11 yrs old.
So yeah---be it Saudi Arabia or where ever the hell it is---bring it on--the US justice system desperately needs and overhaul-we need some Texas law---you know the John Wayne, Clint Eastwood kick the door in and get the SOB. Lynching mob definitely works on these beasts. |
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